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| + Yusuke | May 31 2014, 05:53 PM Post #1 |
 
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How strong do you think the humans (Yamcha, Tien, and Krillin only) are.... At the end of the Namek Arc? @Trunks killing Frieza? Android/Cell Arc? Buu Arc? BoG? EoZ? Edited by Yusuke, May 31 2014, 05:53 PM.
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| Alex D. Boss | May 31 2014, 05:58 PM Post #2 |
 
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I know for a fact that the Gero's gate can hold on his own against the Human fighters. Other then that , Krillin being somewhere between 250-300K should be respectable. And thats it. |
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| + Pyrus | May 31 2014, 06:16 PM Post #3 |
 
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Namek Arc Yamcha: 60-80,000 Tenshinhan: 100-150,000 Krillin: 225-275,000 Mecha Freeza Yamcha: 85,000 Tenshinhan: 150,000 Krillin: 300,000 Androids/Cell Yamcha: 600,000 Tenshinhan: 900,000 Krillin: 2,000,000 Boo Yamcha: 500,000 Tenshinhan: 1,200,000 Krillin: 1,850,000 BOG Yamcha: 450,000 Tenshinhan: 1,300,000 Krillin: 1,650,000 EOZ Yamcha: 300,000 Tenshinhan: 1,400,000 Krillin: 1,500,000 
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| + Yusuke | Jun 1 2014, 06:38 AM Post #4 |
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For me, I have.. End of Namek Arc Yamcha: 120,000 Tien: 200,000 Krillin: 600,000 @Trunks's Debut Yamcha: 550,000 Tien: 750,000 Krillin: 980,000 Android/Cell Arc Yamcha: 3,500,000 Tien: 5,000,000 Krillin: 7,000,000 Buu Arc Yamcha: 3,000,000 Tien: 5,500,000 Krillin: 6,500,000 BoG Yamcha: 2,700,000 Tien: 5,800,000 Krillin: 6,250,000 EoZ Yamcha: 2,500,000 Tien: 6,000,000 Krillin: 6,050,000 |
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| SSJ | Jun 1 2014, 06:40 AM Post #5 |
 
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What feats do they have that makes them stronger than Namek Goku?
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| + Yusuke | Jun 1 2014, 06:47 AM Post #6 |
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IDK, I have a soft spot for Humans I guess lol. I haven't read this part in sometime but I think 20 thought getting Ki from Supressed Piccolo as well as the Humans getting would be enough to beat SSJ Vegeta. |
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| Vertical | Jun 1 2014, 06:51 AM Post #7 |
 
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Krillin aside.... what feats do the others have to put them beyond Nappa? >_> [Android/Cell Arc] Krillin - 75 mill Tenshinhan - 25 mill Edited by Vertical, Jun 1 2014, 06:52 AM.
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| SSJ | Jun 1 2014, 07:58 AM Post #8 |
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Which is exactly why I don't see a reason for them to be that strong. They got no statements or feats. Many use the fact that the showed up against the Androids, but I find that to be rather weak evidence. |
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| Vertical | Jun 1 2014, 08:02 AM Post #9 |
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Quite right. The only things they really have going for them are Gero and the status quo. |
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| SSJ | Jun 1 2014, 08:07 AM Post #10 |
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I used to try to boost them using Gero, but I find it to be inaccurate. SSJ Vegeta could be multiple times stronger than Gero, yet he still thought a bunch of suppressed people would seal the deal for him. I just don't buy it to be honest. Edited by SSJ, Jun 1 2014, 08:07 AM.
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| Vertical | Jun 1 2014, 08:36 AM Post #11 |
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But he doesn't have to be. >_> |
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| + Emmeth | Jun 1 2014, 08:41 AM Post #12 |
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End of Namek Arc Krillin: 500,000 Tenshinhan: 50,000~ Yamcha: 35,000~ Chaozu: 20,000~ Trunks Saga Krillin: 650,000 Tenshinhan: 80,000~ Yamcha: 45,000 Chaozu: 25,000 Android Arc Krillin: 12,000,000 Tenshinhan: 10,000,000 Yamcha: 8,000,000 Boo Arc Krillin: 12,000,000 Tenshinhan: 10,500,000 Yamcha: Anywhere between 1,000,000 and 5,000,000 I don't really have numbers for any of them beyond the Boo arc, since it's irrelevant anyway. |
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| Alex D. Boss | Jun 1 2014, 09:45 AM Post #13 |
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If SSj Vegeta is multiple times stronger , shouldn't that make the humans stronger too? I mean Gero needs their energy to defeat Vegeta. |
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| SSJ | Jun 1 2014, 04:19 PM Post #14 |
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No he doesn't have to be, but it is a possibility. We know he is well above a stomp level gap, because he was still a lot stronger than Piccolo. Where I feel this theory falls apart is in the fact that everyone was suppressed. I believe it was implied somewhere that Base Vegeta was stronger than weighted Piccolo (not 100% sure on this), and Piccolo hadn't powered up when Gero made his statement. So how would four people who are weaker than Base Vegeta add up to his SSJ power? |
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| Vertical | Jun 1 2014, 11:34 PM Post #15 |
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A lower Base to SSJ ratio. Everyone is below Base Vegeta. Piccolo is the only one confirmed suppressed. SSJ Vegeta > Piccolo > Gero Throwing out some example numbers using a 10x system: SSJ Vegeta - 100 Piccolo - 85 Gero (still getting bashed by Piccolo) - 70 Base Vegeta - 10 Suppressed Piccolo - 8 Gohan - 5 Humans - 4 or less Even this very generous example (especially to Gero) is not close enough for Gero + Supp Picc (or Humans) to work... so you still have to close the ratio even more... or as many do, simply write Gero off as incorrect. |
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